like jon stewart was saying. the president has gone way outside anyone's comfort zone with med zaide, medicare and social security and dropping revenues which is a serious mistake. be that as it may, he's the most serious person at that table, in terms of trying to avoid a default, and i still think we will avoid it. i think at the end of the day, that will -- that saner minds prevail, but every minute i get more nervous and every minute we talk about this we're not talking about jobs and the economy. the cost of this debate of legion in my view. >> jimmy williams. one person is controlling the agenda of the united states of america right now and his name is grover norquist. grover norquist was nude gingrich's butt buddy. jack abra hof's buddy. charged peoples 25ds,000 a pop to go to a bush white house signing ceremony. he is a petty crim kninal and m just about every single member of the house of republicans, on the republican side, not the tea party, and almost all republican. s signing a pledge saying they wil